love, romance and poetry: on writing, creativity & motivation

Nomancer: My name is Nomancer. I'm a 23-year-old from Minneapolis, Minnesota currently. I am many things: I'm a believer, I'm a dreamer, I'm a writer, I'm a lover, I'm a pacifist, and I'm trying to be a vegetarian. I believe in an all-powerful and loving God. I love human beings and I'm out here figuring things out just like you guys. That's me.

Growing up, it was all about R&B and hip-hop. I grew up in South Florida—Miami, Florida, 305—and the thing is, to be Black and to be cool, you had to be about hip-hop. But when I went abroad and came back, and in the traveling that I've done, I realized that I could like many things and I don't have to fit the box. Every time I'm walking around, whether it's work or just for fun, every time I go someplace, people look at me. I'm not saying I'm being paranoid, but I've gotten a lot of comments because I look weird.

A2: For the people who are just listening, describe your everyday aesthetic.

Nomancer: My aesthetic is heavily influenced by grunge. I'm a huge Mother Love Bone fan, if anybody knows who that is, which I doubt. But also Pearl Jam, Nirvana—I'm a big fan of the Seattle sound in the 90s. I'm a huge fan of the 90s period. I'm a huge fan of the style of dress that you would see in TV shows like Fresh Prince and Boy Meets World. I'm very into this aesthetic of faded-out clothing and large trench coats. I got piercings, I got long hair.

But I love trap music and I love classic rock. And I'm Latino, too, so I love my reggaeton and I love my salsa. It's like I've been delving into these new worlds where I realize I can like many things. I don't have to be the one thing that my skin color, or my look, or my hair, or my ethnicity places me in. I can be in many things. I could vibe to Mr. Big, I could vibe to Guns N' Roses, and I can also vibe to Miguel and Anderson .Paak. I can be many things. I started wearing rings a while back, and now that's one of the biggest things that is noticeable about me—you see my hands and they're full of rings. Typically, I got one on every finger, usually when I go to work, which is a little extra, but I'm a little extra myself.

A2: I feel that.

Cultural Roots and Writing in Two Languages

A2: Just in general, knowing you and your background, you're very eclectic. Even though you have this grunge influence—and I'm glad that you told me because we went to college together and I never actually asked you this question—you just have many influences in general. Tell me more about how your ethnicity plays into it. You said you're Latino, so dig more into that, because I think all of this goes into the poetry.

Nomancer: It really does. My mother is Colombian, so that's the Latino part. I'm a Latino-Caribbean. My mother's Colombian and my father is from Haiti. That being said, I am a Latino-Caribbean-American, and I see myself above all things because the most influential part of my culture would be being an American. I'm a very proud American. Right here, that's my flag right there. I love this country very much and it grew on me slowly. Growing up, you're trying to really find out who you are, so you see yourself as strictly one thing or another.

Over the years, I've been coming to terms with the many things I am. I'm very proud to be a Black man, I'm very proud to be an American man, and I'm very proud to be an Hispanic, Latino, Latin American man. That definitely influences a lot of the things that I do and that I write about, because I think many times in Spanish, but with an American influence. The way I speak Spanish is even very Americanized because I learned it here at home from a Latin woman.

A2: I've read your poetry and it's in English, but do you write anything in Spanish?

Nomancer: I do, I do. And I'm very careful because English comes naturally to me, having been born and raised in this country. But I do write a lot in Spanish as well for the audience that is Latino. I have a lot of friends who are straight from South America—they came here as transplants, "fresh off the boat" as we like to say. I write to cater to an audience that is only Spanish-speaking, so they can understand my world in their language, and my language too. I write in Spanish a lot, especially when I'm really feeling a Latina woman. When I'm dating Latin women, I'm typically very inspired to write in Spanish.

A2: That's interesting. You're pulling from both worlds. English comes naturally to you, but there are certain things where, even though there are translations, the meaning doesn't have the same implication from language to language. To that end, it's almost unfair to put English versus Spanish. It's English and Spanish. You're not Haitian versus Colombian; you're Haitian and Colombian and American. You speak English, Spanish, and French, so everything has its own place. Do you write in French too?

Nomancer: I don't write in French. I can't write in French. It wouldn't be very poetic because I haven't mastered poetry in that language.

A2: I think that's the next step, bro. Just off the cuff, hearing about the Spanish makes me want to learn it, from the simple fact that there are some things I just can't say in English. Being born and raised as an American as well, but having a multi-ethnic background like yourself, I feel like there are a lot of restrictions as to what I can say. I have an education, so I understand how to use big words, but some things just get lost in meaning.

The Divine Feminine, Love, and the Fallen Nature of Man

A2: I want to go back to The Divine Feminine, the song "Cinderella." There's the guitar in the beginning, a solo at the end, and then there's a piano part. You know what I'm talking about?

Nomancer: Yeah, that's actually one of my favorite parts.

A2: Right. My whole thing was that there is a lot of intensity and emotion building up, and then there's this piano thing. I think that song wouldn't be what it is without that particular part. Sonically, you can hear from start to finish the range of emotions you were talking about in the beginning as far as the encounter, the intensity, and the dichotomy of "I'm mortal but this takes me to paradise."

What you talk about is what so many people talk about, but few people have an understanding of what it really is. In the beginning, you said that men appreciate women, but not in the sense... do you remember what you were saying?

Nomancer: I can't tell you verbatim what I said, but us men have this appreciation for women that, because of our fallen nature, isn't very contained. This is why you see so many atrocities going on alongside so much adoration. We live in a world where there's this enigma: we love women so much yet we treat them so badly.

You notice it everywhere. Just yesterday, I was with somebody and they were telling me things that hurt me because I desire peace and eternity. That part of me that desires God, eternity, and purity hears these horrible things and it's shocking. But then somewhere inside of me, I understand why it happens. It happens because of this obsession, adoration, or what some might call love for something beautiful, but we don't know how to contain it because it's so tainted by our fallen state.

When I say fallen state, I'm talking about sin. I like to call sin a virus, and that virus taints all aspects of our being, character, and emotion. If you love something, the only way you can love it purely is by understanding and being with purity, which is Yahweh God. We love women so much, and we write songs and poetry about them, but then we look at the dark side and think, "Dang, we're really doing this to our women? To our daughters, to our sisters, to our mothers? This is how we talk about them and treat them—our co-workers, our nurses, our doctors?"

I've been writing a lot of these love poems and romantic things lately with this perspective, especially now that people are speaking out. Women and men are speaking out about the mistreatment of the fairer gender. As a writer who loves romance, poetry, and women, you can't deny that reality. I actually feel guilty sometimes because I write about all this love, but it's funny because a lot of us just don't understand how to properly love her. You see this everywhere. A song like "Cinderella" is passionate, beautiful, sexy, and sensual—but on the other side, this same genre has a lot of songs that are demeaning and degrading to the very women we adore.

A2: You just unpacked a lot. To go back so I can understand this better: do you feel the only way we can understand a subject such as women is to look only at the purity and ignore the bad?

Nomancer: No, not at all. What I'm saying is the only way we can truly love our women, love ourselves, and love humanity is by having a relationship with the author of love. No matter how much I want to do good or love, you can't do good apart from the Creator of good—the essence of goodness. It makes no sense, because the only meaning of love we know without the Creator is one that's tainted by our own desires. We would be complete hedonists, pleasure-seeking monsters, because we're driven by our own impulses. And our impulses, desires, and emotions are tainted by the virus called sin.

The only way you can truly love anyone and appreciate someone for the worthy, valuable human being they are is by seeing them through the lens of the Creator. Otherwise, everything I write about and do is out of lust or pleasure. And it is true—a lot of what I write comes from literally sitting at a coffee shop when a girl sits right next to me. We strike up a conversation, and the sound of her voice is so arousing, beautiful, and angelic that I write three poems based on an encounter that was only 20 minutes long. I'm discovering that inside of me, there's a lot of darkness alongside a lot of light that I seek, which can only come from the Creator. This happens a lot with my writing as I tackle the human condition.

A2: Definitely. Is a lot of your writing reactive to stimuli like that, or do you spend a large percentage of your time premeditating a subject and then acting on it?

Nomancer: That's a good question. I would say 80 to 90% of my writing comes from some sort of stimulation. Whether my heart is being stimulated or my mind is experiencing sensual stimuli that just occurred—like when a girl accidentally touches my arm, when I'm on a date, or when I'm thinking about the best kiss I ever had when I was 19. Something is always stimulating my artistic process, and then I think about it.

I find inspiration in almost everything. I do a lot of my writing in the car, actually. I'm driving to work, I see the people driving past me, and I think about who they are. For the brief little window I have of looking at them—whether they're singing, stressed, smoking, angry, or happy—I create my own world and perspective of who they are. I romanticize what they could be and write about it.

A2: Definitely.

Seeking the Creator and Sharing an ER Poem

A2: Going back to your point about how the only way to truly experience love is through the author itself: for people who might not see eye-to-eye with that or are wondering how to go about it in a practical way, what is the first thing you would tell them?

Nomancer: There are a lot of non-believers who just don't believe there is such a thing as an author of love or a God, and I respect that. But the fact of the matter is, there is a God who created this thing we call love, which we all desire.

If you look at human history—whether mathematically, scientifically, or spiritually—love does not originate from human essence alone. To look at it practically, the easiest way to get acquainted with what love is, is to understand how dark and sinister you yourself can be, and then ask where this desire for love comes from. That's a very fun but scary process because you start sitting down and realizing, Dang, I'm kind of twisted. There's no good in me.

Practically speaking, I honestly think it's about walking with the Creator. Do good, go into nature, and if you're a skeptic, at least try to have a relationship with the Creator.

A2: I'm glad you took that angle because I believe it's very personalized. It's something you have to ask yourself. You have to look at who you are and what you're capable of doing. It's something Loney has to answer for himself, AJ has to answer for himself, James and Julie have to answer for themselves. That's why I'm glad you took that angle; there's no one-size-fits-all answer. It's a case of "one size fits one."

Quickly, do you have anything memorized from your writings that you can share as an example?

Nomancer: I just posted something 40 minutes ago. I'm writing a lot of things right now, and I have an arbitrary way of deciding what to post, but I won't mention anything that hasn't been published yet. I'll read you something I wrote two days ago at the hospital. It was 4:00 a.m., I was working in the ER, and I wrote this because a gentleman walked into triage completely drunk and started talking foolishness. You could hear him all over the department. This is how it goes:

My father has always had two options for dealing with the pain: God or liquor.

He chose God, but always sounds like a drunk.

A2: Wow.

The Origin of "Nomancer" and the Energy of the Midwest

A2: Nomancer—that's the alias for those who are listening. N-O-M-A-N-C-E-R. Where does that come from? What's the inspiration behind it?

Nomancer: It's funny because I don't usually tell people this, but I will gladly because I like to get personal. As you can tell, my writing is often very real and borderline erotic; it's about how I see the world. Nomancer comes from two words: a "nomadic romancer."

I don't consider myself to have a home.

A2: Yo, I love that.

Nomancer: I've been a missionary for almost all of my life and I've been to many countries. I've always felt like a nomad, a gypsy, or a wanderer. That's the nomadic part. The romancer part is because the closest thing to a home I find is in the love of a woman, to be honest with you. I know the love of God is the most important thing, but romance is one of the driving forces in my life. A nomadic romancer is a wandering romancer trying to find home.

A2: And where is home right now?

Nomancer: Right now, and I think for a good chunk of my life, it's going to be Minneapolis, Minnesota.

A2: How much has Minneapolis influenced your style? You've been going hard at this for a couple of years now, around the same time you took a break from school and we stopped going to class together. I'm curious because the Midwest often gets overlooked artistically. We always look at the coasts—Cali, New York, Seattle, Florida.

But having spent six years living in Lincoln, Nebraska, I know there's a whole local music scene out there that is very real. When people think of Minnesota, one of the first things that comes to mind is Prince, specifically in Minneapolis. Coincidentally, the Vikings' primary color is purple, so there is that connection. But I feel like there aren't a lot of recognized hometown heroes. When Bryson Tiller first came out, he had a song called "502 Come Up" where the area code becomes very important. You shouted out 305 earlier, but some people don't do that. What is the creative energy like there that people need to know about?

Nomancer: Prince hails from Minneapolis, but we're in the Twin Cities. The twin of Minneapolis is St. Paul, and one of the greatest authors of all time comes from St. Paul—F. Scott Fitzgerald, the author of The Great Gatsby and Tender Is the Night. We have a lot of unsung authors, writers, and musicians here.

The energy here is heavily influenced by the cold, and this is what's appealing to me. Wherever the cold is present, a distinct culture is created by the climate of the region—just like skating culture in California or surfing culture in Hawaii.

Think about hip-hop in New York where it all started. In Minnesota, everything is cold most of the time. I have found that because it's so cold, people want to put their strife, quarrels, and beef away. I don't want to waste energy on drama when it's freezing. Let's just all come inside, drink hot cocoa or coffee, and stay warm together. In the summer, we can pick the fighting back up.

Once it starts getting cold, people become a little friendlier. A lot of people attribute that to Christmas and the spirit of giving, but it's actually because of the winter. Your hands are freezing; you aren't about to square up.

A2: Right, you're cold inside and out.

Cold Climates, Local Scenes, and Hibernation

Nomancer: You don't want to expend any energy fighting when you really want to stay warm. So you go inside, and suddenly you're pouring coffee and chocolate for your enemy while talking about life, politics, and religion. Artistically, the vibe here is very special. The Twin Cities isn't as big as New York or LA, so the competition isn't crazy, but it's big enough that you will get attention if you have talent.

I have a friend I met when I first moved here who is an up-and-coming fashion designer. She has a line called Porsa Celeste—her name is Vanessa Lawson—and she's really picking up steam with amazing clothes. There are a lot of people out here trying to rap, do spoken word, or start bands. I'm trying to start a band myself; I play the guitar a bit. I have another friend who went to school for music production who makes amazing beats on SoundCloud. Over here, you aren't drowned out by competition. You have enough space to create, grow, and develop as an artist, and when you have a following in the Midwest, you can take that elsewhere and market it.

A2: That formula works everywhere, but I'm glad you shined a light on this region because it's a lot more scalable than a big city.

Nomancer: Yes.

A2: That's big. I felt the same way about my time in Lincoln. Even with what little I knew then compared to what I know now about workflows, I knew that if you give a smaller community a little something, they will embrace it.

During my last year living there, I was doing ride-sharing and picked someone up who recognized me within ten seconds from The Contrary—which was a piano-based group I did in college with a good friend of mine. This was years after the project had ended and everyone had moved away, yet this person remembered it. It was incredibly cool to have left that kind of lasting memory, and it was a testament to the local culture. You wouldn't elicit that same response in a massive state like New York, Cali, or Texas.

As far as the climate goes, that's fascinating. You know the artist 6LACK from Atlanta?

Nomancer: Oh yeah, I'm a big fan, especially of his new album. Huge fan.

A2: He is one of the most cohesive writers in terms of how he pieces together his records and documents his life fluids. Prior to the promo cycle of his second album, he would always post on social media, "I always write better when it's cold." That stuck with me because I felt the same way when I was doing poetry heavily a decade ago. I held onto it strongly until right before graduation when I was trying to do hip-hop lyricism, before taking a step back because it wasn't the right time. Piano is a lot more natural to me, but I relate to that statement.

I write better and have a better output when it's cold and when I have a muse to react to in the moment. I used to carry notebooks around the house, write the date, and just let ideas flow freely. It's the same way with the piano now; I speak through the piano, so my ideas flow that way.

When things outside of your control force you into a situation, you react differently, and a lot of times you're better for it if you allow yourself to be. Some people don't respond well to the weather. I'm not a big fan of the summer, and I'll let everybody know that because I don't want to deal with the heat. But I love the cold because it gives you a reason to hibernate.

This past winter was definitely a period of hibernation for me because of everything that was going on—so much transition in just two short years. But we're better for it, and I think you're better for it too by being in an area where you can develop this talent and tell people, "Look, I'm a Nomancer, and this is how I see the world. Welcome." No matter how different your aesthetic is to people, it changes nothing.

Preparing for the Future and the Impact of a Muse

A2: What's next for you? You mentioned wanting to start a band and doubling down on your gifts. What's ahead?

Nomancer: I'm going to tell you what's next, though I'm going to sound mad corny. Shout-out to my family. I feel like I'm famous—just kidding. Fame is not the goal for me.

I want to shout out to a girl that I've recently been talking to. I'm a little scared because when you ask me what's next, my automatic answer is that I'm preparing myself to be a good husband, a father, a better follower of Christ, and a better brother.

The reason I'm saying this is because just today, I was in my car waiting for my appointment. I work as an interpreter for the healthcare system, and as I was sitting there, I was thinking about how I just spent some time with this girl. She completely made me want to be a better man in a way that I've never felt before. I felt like I was being transformed while we were talking. Today I was thinking about her and everything that was said.

When you ask what's next, honestly, I want to reach a position in life where I can say that I am living comfortably—but not monetarily comfortably, spiritually comfortably. I want to be somewhere in life where I can provide a place of asylum and peace for people who are seeking it spiritually. I want to be a protector and somebody who is always loving selflessly. I'm not trying to be pretentious here. The reason I say this is because this woman, in the most innocent way, made me want to be a better man. The look in her eyes, everything about her, really made me want to be a better man. It already changed the whole dynamic of the way I'm going to write. What's next is that I'm going to try to see if I can capture her heart. She doesn't know this, and she doesn't watch any of this.

A2: Spoken like a true Nomancer.

Nomancer: She's next. That's what's next. She's in my plans.

A2: That's heavy, bro. That's real heavy. Where do people find your poems?

Nomancer: If people are interested, I consider myself a makeshift writer. You know how people make makeshift items because they don't want to go buy them at the store, inventing their own way to deal with everyday issues? I look at myself that way. Calling myself a poet is a bit much. I take it very seriously, but it's a very simple thing. I love words, so I put them down, and if they sound good, I share them. You can find me on Instagram under the name Nomancer, and you can find me on Facebook under the same name. That's how I'm going to start gathering a following. The ultimate plan is to write a book—not to make money out of it, but to leave my mark on this world by the way I love people and by the way I wrote it down.

Sibling Creatives and Documenting the Story

A2: I love that. I think the meta-narrative that you provided in this conversation—being able to just talk about things that interest us and the way we already think, and how similar it is because we have multi-ethnic backgrounds—is powerful. People who appreciate your poetry will appreciate this discussion a lot more.

I'm going to go on record and say this right now: I've known you for a few years, but in these past two hours, including when we were texting before this, I feel like I understand and appreciate you so much better. Not only as a creative and a colleague, but as a friend and a brother. Absolutely. It's amazing to me how sometimes we don't take the time to talk about the things that matter, when those are the things that make all the difference. I feel like that's what you talked about here. You pour your heart out into all these words, and in hindsight, just reading them might not have made complete sense, but now it makes so much more sense.

Nomancer: Let me tell you something. I write, and everybody asks me about this, but a lot of my things sound vague sometimes. The reason is that every single poem I write is actually a love letter to my future wife.

A2: You're documenting.

Nomancer: Yes, love letters documenting how I was before I met her and how I got there.

A2: I feel you on that. You're right. It goes back to an artist like 6LACK. He's been documenting his story of becoming a father, transitioning out of relationships, and transitioning into becoming a household name in music. I feel the same way about the music that I write and the photos that I take. I produce a lot of content, and this platform is just the gateway that marketing has provided for us over the past two years.

I keep referencing two years because it's been over two years since I graduated college and moved out of that repetitive system. Ever since then, my life has become radically different just by the way I've been living. I traveled a lot in the beginning, and I've been staying in a lot recently, navigating life and adulting. I look back on the photos of those two years, and they mean so much more than the years before that, only because I was able to break out and see things a little bit differently. I've documented it along the way. With the music I'm putting out right now and the poetry you're putting out right now, we are sibling creatives in that regard. We're documenting for the future.

I'm not going to go on record and talk about a future wife per se, because I don't feel like that's necessarily my specific trajectory in terms of my artistry, even though love and similar themes absolutely influence me. I think it's a lot deeper than that, which is another conversation for another time. But I will say that I want to be able to look back and accurately tell the story.

The Art of Concealment and Creative Output

A2: There are some stories you don't tell. You mentioned that you are vague at times, or that people can perceive your writing to be vague. You talk a lot about what your influences are, and they sound very ever-present in your life. Are there areas in your life that you completely black out as far as your artistry goes, where nobody has access? For instance, you just talked about preparing yourself mentally for something big. Are there areas of your life that remain entirely hidden? I feel that I have those boundaries for myself, but I'm curious about you, the Nomancer—someone who is wandering, but who has shared bits and pieces of this story over the past hour. Do those totally private areas exist for you?

Nomancer: It definitely exists. The way that I am able to share it without compromising whatever that is, is through my writing. This is why sometimes it is considered vague, and other times it is very precise. A lot of the things that I write are written about me, for me, and reflect how I see things. I put it out there so people who relate can find some understanding or just enjoy something beautiful, because words are beautiful.

I want to make this clear: I write because I have to. I don't put my work out there for an explanation; I put it out there as an observation. There are aspects of what I observe that I hold very close and very concealed because exposing them isn't going to help the writing. I want people to interpret how I'm feeling and make it their own. That's why movies and music are so special. The artist—whether it's 6LACK, J. Cole, or one of my favorite bands, Kings of Leon—along with the directors and actors, put things out that carry a different meaning to them. A lot of the time, their motives and true meanings are concealed so that you can take it in, process it, let it inspire you, and add your own meaning.

One of my favorite painters is Jean-Michel Basquiat. We already know he's from New York, representing. Basquiat is a powerful figure because you put out your art, and it has a meaning to you, but you don't have to share that meaning. Let the world process it, and let everyday people put their own spin on things. Banksy is amazing for that too.

So I do conceal things, especially how I feel about God. I conceal it in a lot of my art and let it roll. I can be whatever I want to be. If I want to be plastic, I'll be plastic. If I want to be mysterious, I'll be mysterious. If I want to be a rebel without a cause, I'll be one. If I want to be a faithful follower and servant, I'll be one. When it comes to your self-expression and art, you get to decide what you want to be, and nobody should tell you otherwise. People are too often dictated by what someone else told them they should be more or less of, and I want none of that. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about.

A2: I'm so glad that you brought up movies and physical art mediums. In a sense, your art is physical because people can see and read it. Movies are powerful because they create an entire landscape. Artist to artist, this is why instrumental music—the music I'm putting out right now, like the Sonic Storytelling series and my project How I Speak—is all instrumental. Other than the title and the artwork, which obviously have meaning to me, the rest is for the listener to find themselves in. That element is missing in a lot of art today, and I want to put more of that out.

You're putting a lot of content out there already at your own pace. If you don't feel like posting for a few days, you just come back in five days and you don't feel bad about it. Why? Because you owe nothing to anybody. You owe it to yourself to be an artist, and that's it.

Nomancer: I see the same with you. You have control. When you are driven purely by money, everything changes because money places a leash on your artistic ability. You start doing things for monetary gain. But when you do it for literal expression, to unwind, and to connect human beings, there's a major difference.

Money, Exposure, and True Devotion

A2: The thing about money for me is that people always talk about how money changes people, but I think money actually exposes people. Gary Vaynerchuk said this: money exposes who you are. It's important to understand that when you get exposed—as I did over these past two years, because money definitely exposed me—you have to evaluate how you are going to react to it. I've reacted in such a way where, as I said, I used to travel a lot and now I don't. Everyone can kind of figure out why that is. But now I think about money way differently than I did two years ago, six months ago, or even a month ago.

When stimuli expose us, it is our responsibility as individuals to understand if an object, or a leash as you put it, is going to bring more harm than good. Analyze the motivations behind it and act accordingly. Never compromise your art for the love of money, and never compromise your art for an image. A lot of times people change because they think they might get something out of it.

When people see you and your aesthetic, it has always been very consistent, having known you for as long as I have. I think that's very important. Even as you've grown as an individual over the years—and as your friend, I'm very happy to see it—you've maintained a consistent image. My issue around the time I met you was that I had different motivations at different times. There were periods where I tapped into artistic elements that I should have doubled down on to be way better off, but I didn't have that self-awareness yet.

What lies beneath your image are your motivations. If your motivation is the number of followers you have on Instagram as opposed to how many lives you can change, that changes the outcome. When we first started this conversation, you were talking about how important it was to cultivate a group of people, and I have been doing this as well, sometimes unintentionally. That's the beauty of art. You can wake up, look at something you worked on before, and see it totally differently. The first music project I put out feels very different to me now compared to when I was making it. It was a mixtape, and I did it all by myself. I was happy to say I did it independently, but at the same time, it was a shell of who I actually was. I look at that now and recognize that chapter was important, but it's vital to have the self-awareness to grow past it.

We've been walking a similar artistic path for a while. When we met, we were both going at it pretty steadily, and I've genuinely been following what you've been putting out.

Nomancer: Absolutely, and I've been watching you too. I like having my commentary on things, but everything looks different when you take the time to truly understand.

A2: That is honestly the entire point of this podcast and platform: taking the time to hear people's stories, having discussions about the things that matter, understanding things better, and finding a new person of interest to check out. Mr. Nomancer, thank you so much. This sounds cheesy, but my heart is very full having this conversation because I feel like I understand a lot more about what's going on.

I'll end with this. You talk a lot about your interactions with the divine feminine or feminine energy. Recently, I stumbled across a bunch of creative concepts in that same ballpark, and I'll share them with you over text. Having this conversation with you makes sense of it all now because I took the time to explore that perspective, and I see things differently. It's fascinating. Before I go to sleep, I'm probably going to flip through your Instagram for 15 or 20 minutes to start piecing together things I hadn't connected before. It's like looking into the Matrix.

Nomancer: We like to say words like "divine," "god," and "goddess," but who really is your God? Who do you worship? Is the thing that you worship tarnishing your soul, or is it uplifting you? Or is it killing you slowly? The reason I say that is because a lot of the things we worship are entirely temporary. No matter how much you love romance, music, beats, photography, drugs, sex, or even church, we can place the label of "God" on a lot of these things, but at the end of the day, those temporary things won't lead us to heaven. You can label a peanut butter and jelly sandwich "God," but it won't lead you to heaven. That's a corny example, but what I'm trying to say is: evaluate who you worship, and make sure there is a true reason you are placing your devotion there.

When it comes to the divine feminine, a lot of men out here are worshiping the female body, the essence, and the beauty, but then they turn around and mistreat women because they have a core misunderstanding. The only way to truly understand value is to worship the one true God. That's what I want to leave people with at the end. Who do you worship, and is it worth it? Just think about it.